now, this better have good documentation to prove this one. in our society nowadays, i hate when folks always press the issue of it’s because of the color of my skin. when are we going to get over this fact and truly see that folks can be treated equally.
what i truly would like to see, that those on welfare – truly get out of the house and work, instead of getting free money. it’s ashame that folks think that money grows on trees. you wonder why we might be on a recession, when folks would rather sit than work. to me it’s rewarding when we work for the almighty dollar that appears to be harder to spend.
This has nothing to do with people on welfare and everything to do with people who are working. It would be hard for anyone to comment on this without the facts. Certainly racism is used as a cheap, nevertheless how would you know this is the case in this case? You should have never brought welfare into this and that was plain wrong.
This comes from a person who thinks Rodney King is a fraud. But if we are too be a fair society, we must look at things both ways.
It is no longer a question of if but when an EPL claim will occur. M & S seems to have all the appropriate measures in place to avoid such a claim but finds itself defending accusations regardless. The defense cost alone will most likely be staggering. Nationwide job bias charges rose 9% in 2007. Racial discrimination was up 12% to the highest level since 1994. Always offer your clients EPL.
Aercromie & Fitch just had a similar discrimination lawsuit brought against them. Where are the black models and employees? If they have models now of color it is only because they had to change their M.O. People kill writing the color of their skin quote. PLEASE! Most white people take it for granted that when they patronize an establishment that they will see people of same skin tone managing and working the front lines with people of color relegated to the back (i.e. cooks, janitorial technician, etc.). Some of us white people think we’re entitled to be “served” by people of color. I really don’t see how this is any different than a “caste” system or the old plantation mentality.
My black brother-in-law applied for a management position and was told he could get the job as line cook where he had to work with mostly Hispanics. Just because you see a Black cook does not always mean that they wanted to do that job – it may mean that they will do what they can to make ends meet and not be on welfare (mostly Whites).
Walgreens recently had to settle with current and former Black employees over pay raises and chances for promotion. The real reason you’re upset is that people are no longer “taking it” anymore and are actually prospering in these types of lawsuits. If white women can sue in class action lawsuit (Merril Lynch) and be successful then why can’t people pf color.
Is discrimination that much harder to prove than sexual harassment or what exactly is your beef? You know racism when you see it but would rather look the other way and think “oh no one of color is applying for these positions, so that’s why I don’t see them or maybe they wanted to work in the back”.
I would rather not work for an establishment that felt I was inferior, go to work for one of their competitors and steal all of their business than file an EEOC complaint. You’ll never put someone out of business filing EEOC claims but you’ll kick them hard by taking & serving their customers. By being better at your job, you’ll get ahead. Asking the govenment to fight my battles just shows I shouldn’t be in the workplace to begin with.
Saints Fan, you are off base as well, in my opinion. When we have had two consecutive Secretary of States who are black and blacks in leadership positions at corporations, in sports, you name it, I don’t think black people as a whole can make a complaint that they are not being offered and taking best positions. I feel discrimination has crossed the line to the port were people will give a black person the position over a while person to show they are reaching out. It’s time we be color blind and end all this nonsense, yet take issue with racism as it happens as well as take issue with affirmative action when that happens.
we hear a lot of cases where they all call foul play against discrimination. more of it being biased than actual truth. i know that it still exists and i wish it did not. i have a son who is engaged to very beautiful black lady and a daughter who is dating a black guy, yet i am white by background. i have been in the usn, where it only mattered of getting the job done. you could be purple or pink polka dotted and so long as you can do the job successfully – i don’t have a problem. but when things don’t always go your way, don’t always try to push the discriminaty suit. if it being done, then fine. but eventually it’s going to be like the kid who cried wolf and when the wolf finally showed – nobody came to help!
as far as welfare – there are many folks on welfare that can actually get a job. i brought this up because i know that they can succeed. you look at the article, it kept stating small table or in the back of the restaurant. as a client, you can choose where to sit in the restaurant as well. you could chose to sit next to the window or at an actual table instead of a booth. or if lucky, it might be a good friend that is working that nite as a waiter.
when you come to sit and think about our society, we are so quick to blame racism. so quick that jesse jackson and company are moving in. sometimes there’s not a need for that. sometimes there is. when martin luther king stated free at last – it would be nice to say that everyday and everyone. i think it should be. but why should we have a quota or percentage of those to be of a certain race or creed? don’t you think that is racist too? as a society we need to step back and think.
we can grow as a nation. but it takes all of us, including those that can work. why do you think we have so many immigrants working for little as possible? that is because we have so many folks that could work, but plan on that federal funding called social security. i know that sometimes we fall on hard times. if we have faith in ourselves, we can proudly pick ourselves up and move out. we can state that we help bring the economy back online. we can say i was able to send my son/daughter to college. I was able to provide for my family without the assistance of the federal government. I put a roof over my family’s head and food on the table. what happened to the word ‘I’?
Really, do you think that that happens ALL the time when a Black gets a position that a White person is better qualified for? Have you had this happen to you personally, know someone it has happened to or is this just a silly supposition of yours? The two Black secretaries of states were appointed – not elected but who was really running the show – Rumsfeld (a white man last I checked). Condi is a fish out of water. Yes I am well aware that Blacks are making strides in arenas other than entertainment but we’re just now on the cusp of getting a Black president? Give me a break – like white males have done a great job and the current one is the worst of the whole group. Let someone else get – they can’t do any worse and they will have to be the clean-up woman for the messes made.
Some people aren’t color-blind and that’s when they get hit in the wallet. It’s not always easy to pick up and leave a job either. Ask a single mother or father or married couple with a load of debt and mouths to feed. All this I’d rather leave than ask the government to fight my battles B.S. is just that – B.S. If that’s the case then in case of a disaster you should be more than able to take care of yourself and God forbid the insurance company you’re insured with screws you (not in my case). If you don’t need the government then apparenly too there is not a need for FEMA, Homeland Security, the FBI, etc. You can take care of yourself, can’t you?
Most people do not feel they are racist until you have to deal on a personal level with someone who doesn’t look like you (i.e. they “take” your job or marry into your family – Guess Who’s Coming To DInner, anyone?).
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now, this better have good documentation to prove this one. in our society nowadays, i hate when folks always press the issue of it’s because of the color of my skin. when are we going to get over this fact and truly see that folks can be treated equally.
what i truly would like to see, that those on welfare – truly get out of the house and work, instead of getting free money. it’s ashame that folks think that money grows on trees. you wonder why we might be on a recession, when folks would rather sit than work. to me it’s rewarding when we work for the almighty dollar that appears to be harder to spend.
This has nothing to do with people on welfare and everything to do with people who are working. It would be hard for anyone to comment on this without the facts. Certainly racism is used as a cheap, nevertheless how would you know this is the case in this case? You should have never brought welfare into this and that was plain wrong.
This comes from a person who thinks Rodney King is a fraud. But if we are too be a fair society, we must look at things both ways.
Are you smoking crack or are you always this illogical?
Wudchuk and InsureExec, you are both full of nonsense.
It is no longer a question of if but when an EPL claim will occur. M & S seems to have all the appropriate measures in place to avoid such a claim but finds itself defending accusations regardless. The defense cost alone will most likely be staggering. Nationwide job bias charges rose 9% in 2007. Racial discrimination was up 12% to the highest level since 1994. Always offer your clients EPL.
“Mister Wudchuck”,
Aercromie & Fitch just had a similar discrimination lawsuit brought against them. Where are the black models and employees? If they have models now of color it is only because they had to change their M.O. People kill writing the color of their skin quote. PLEASE! Most white people take it for granted that when they patronize an establishment that they will see people of same skin tone managing and working the front lines with people of color relegated to the back (i.e. cooks, janitorial technician, etc.). Some of us white people think we’re entitled to be “served” by people of color. I really don’t see how this is any different than a “caste” system or the old plantation mentality.
My black brother-in-law applied for a management position and was told he could get the job as line cook where he had to work with mostly Hispanics. Just because you see a Black cook does not always mean that they wanted to do that job – it may mean that they will do what they can to make ends meet and not be on welfare (mostly Whites).
Walgreens recently had to settle with current and former Black employees over pay raises and chances for promotion. The real reason you’re upset is that people are no longer “taking it” anymore and are actually prospering in these types of lawsuits. If white women can sue in class action lawsuit (Merril Lynch) and be successful then why can’t people pf color.
Is discrimination that much harder to prove than sexual harassment or what exactly is your beef? You know racism when you see it but would rather look the other way and think “oh no one of color is applying for these positions, so that’s why I don’t see them or maybe they wanted to work in the back”.
B.S.!
I would rather not work for an establishment that felt I was inferior, go to work for one of their competitors and steal all of their business than file an EEOC complaint. You’ll never put someone out of business filing EEOC claims but you’ll kick them hard by taking & serving their customers. By being better at your job, you’ll get ahead. Asking the govenment to fight my battles just shows I shouldn’t be in the workplace to begin with.
Saints Fan, you are off base as well, in my opinion. When we have had two consecutive Secretary of States who are black and blacks in leadership positions at corporations, in sports, you name it, I don’t think black people as a whole can make a complaint that they are not being offered and taking best positions. I feel discrimination has crossed the line to the port were people will give a black person the position over a while person to show they are reaching out. It’s time we be color blind and end all this nonsense, yet take issue with racism as it happens as well as take issue with affirmative action when that happens.
we hear a lot of cases where they all call foul play against discrimination. more of it being biased than actual truth. i know that it still exists and i wish it did not. i have a son who is engaged to very beautiful black lady and a daughter who is dating a black guy, yet i am white by background. i have been in the usn, where it only mattered of getting the job done. you could be purple or pink polka dotted and so long as you can do the job successfully – i don’t have a problem. but when things don’t always go your way, don’t always try to push the discriminaty suit. if it being done, then fine. but eventually it’s going to be like the kid who cried wolf and when the wolf finally showed – nobody came to help!
as far as welfare – there are many folks on welfare that can actually get a job. i brought this up because i know that they can succeed. you look at the article, it kept stating small table or in the back of the restaurant. as a client, you can choose where to sit in the restaurant as well. you could chose to sit next to the window or at an actual table instead of a booth. or if lucky, it might be a good friend that is working that nite as a waiter.
when you come to sit and think about our society, we are so quick to blame racism. so quick that jesse jackson and company are moving in. sometimes there’s not a need for that. sometimes there is. when martin luther king stated free at last – it would be nice to say that everyday and everyone. i think it should be. but why should we have a quota or percentage of those to be of a certain race or creed? don’t you think that is racist too? as a society we need to step back and think.
we can grow as a nation. but it takes all of us, including those that can work. why do you think we have so many immigrants working for little as possible? that is because we have so many folks that could work, but plan on that federal funding called social security. i know that sometimes we fall on hard times. if we have faith in ourselves, we can proudly pick ourselves up and move out. we can state that we help bring the economy back online. we can say i was able to send my son/daughter to college. I was able to provide for my family without the assistance of the federal government. I put a roof over my family’s head and food on the table. what happened to the word ‘I’?
Really, do you think that that happens ALL the time when a Black gets a position that a White person is better qualified for? Have you had this happen to you personally, know someone it has happened to or is this just a silly supposition of yours? The two Black secretaries of states were appointed – not elected but who was really running the show – Rumsfeld (a white man last I checked). Condi is a fish out of water. Yes I am well aware that Blacks are making strides in arenas other than entertainment but we’re just now on the cusp of getting a Black president? Give me a break – like white males have done a great job and the current one is the worst of the whole group. Let someone else get – they can’t do any worse and they will have to be the clean-up woman for the messes made.
Some people aren’t color-blind and that’s when they get hit in the wallet. It’s not always easy to pick up and leave a job either. Ask a single mother or father or married couple with a load of debt and mouths to feed. All this I’d rather leave than ask the government to fight my battles B.S. is just that – B.S. If that’s the case then in case of a disaster you should be more than able to take care of yourself and God forbid the insurance company you’re insured with screws you (not in my case). If you don’t need the government then apparenly too there is not a need for FEMA, Homeland Security, the FBI, etc. You can take care of yourself, can’t you?
Most people do not feel they are racist until you have to deal on a personal level with someone who doesn’t look like you (i.e. they “take” your job or marry into your family – Guess Who’s Coming To DInner, anyone?).