Mass. High Court: Paralyzed Patron Can Sue Bar

January 11, 2007

  • January 11, 2007 at 8:44 am
    Chuck says:
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    If one had to choose between an insurance company paying the bills, or tendering their policy limits versus the government, I choose the government.

    The parents aren\’t responsible as their child is no longer a child, but an adult. Hence, we all share in the bills.

    To force insurance monies to foot the bill for the reckless behavior of the plaintiff is ridiculous….

    Unfortunately, juries often don\’t listen to the facts, they get swayed by smooth talking plaintiff attorneys and their whining and crying clients.

  • January 11, 2007 at 10:23 am
    Sam says:
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    Who are these judges? Did they pass the bar last week or were THEY intoxicated?

    Please someone tell me what intelligent reason does this moron, whom got exactly what he deserved, even have a leg to stand on (yes, that pun WAS intended)in court?

    There was no negligence here by the restaurants/bars…lil Bobby got his buddies to sneak him drinks disguising them only as glasses of soda. Why else do you think he chose a clear almost odorless liquor with his soda??

    No way a court should allow a lawsuit against a bar/restaurant when the patron is deliberately breaking the law. Here\’s a thought…sue the kids who brought the drinks…let them pay the hospital bills and help with the nursing of this idiot since they are the ones who helped cause it.

    Do that and you won\’t see too many \”buddies\” helping their friends get drunk…

    **stepping down off my soapbox**

  • January 11, 2007 at 11:29 am
    dot_hemath says:
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    Normally I take a pretty conservative position on lawsuits and personal responsibility, but I have a very low tolerance when it comes to establishments serving alcohol to minors.

    One word, Sam… SUPERVISION.

  • January 11, 2007 at 12:44 pm
    Intern says:
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    You\’re suggesting there was a lack of supervision?

    I guess that\’s plausible, but as Sam outlined, it looks like this young Mr Nunez had a pretty clever system in place to circumvent the normal controls that prevent minors from being served. Heck, he apparently had a fake ID in hand as well. It\’s one thing if a business has a pattern of serving minors, but there\’s nothing to indicate that here. This is deep pockets syndrome at it\’s worst. In the end we all end up paying for the deviance and lawlessness of people like Mr. Nunez.

  • January 11, 2007 at 1:45 am
    FinanceMike says:
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    I love the quote they chose:

    \”He wanted everything that we all want,\’\’ Nunez\’s attorney John Dodge said, \”a family and everything else.\’\’

    Looks like he also wants someone to take on the financial consequence of his poor judgment.

    While I generally agree this is BS, if this guy went into two establishments where they knew him (and presumably that he was underage), and they still served him, they\’re going to get in trouble. Employees are generally thought to act as the owner\’s agent, making him responsible for training and supervising them. So, apparently these owners weren\’t doing such a hot job of either hiring, training or supervising their employees, which puts them on the hook.

  • January 11, 2007 at 1:45 am
    Reagan says:
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    Dot,

    He had a fake ID and I\’m guessing with the name of Nunez has been shaving since he was 9. That, on top of his friends slipping him liquor in his soda is impossible to supervise. Had he been turned away he\’d probably now be suing for discrimination. Why would anyone do business in this country anymore? There is only heartache at the end of the road. I hope al Quaida can get to these judges, they would gladly find in favor for them as well.

  • January 11, 2007 at 1:56 am
    One w/ethics & morals says:
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    Unfortunately too many people today do not take responsibility for their own actions. It\’s always \”somebody else\’s fault\” or the old \”they owe me\” syndrome because I ignored the known consequences of driving drunk.

  • January 11, 2007 at 1:59 am
    Ben Franklin says:
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    How is there none left in this country? Are we not educated on what is right and wrong? Can we no longer make decisions for ourselves? Whether he was served or not, he chose to consume the alcohol. Would he have sued his parents had he taken the alcohol from their cabinet? Where does the madness end? Regan is right – why would anyone want to own a business in this country as they will surely be the defendant in a civil proceeding which may ultimately cost them their livelihood.

  • January 11, 2007 at 2:05 am
    One w/ethics & morals says:
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    That\’s the word I was looking for – personal accountability. Too bad this wasn\’t the old \”Western Days\”. If a man was too drunk, they would simple toss him out the swinging doors and onto the dirt. Mr. Nobel does not \”win\” in either case as even with the monies he may be awarded, he will have to live with the consequences of his actions that he \”chose\” to drink.

  • January 11, 2007 at 2:27 am
    dot-hemath=idiot says:
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    First of all you all make a bold assumption. \”Where they knew him\” does not equal \”they all knew his age\” The kid had a fake ID–I worked as a bartender all thru college and grad school. A chain like Carrabas does not inform every employee of the age of every other employee. I wouldn\’t even be surprised if they would get sued for breaching confidentiality of the poor employee if they did! Turnover is high in this industry as well . I agree… sue the friends, sue they guy who sold you your fake ID, hell even sue yourself if you want but all that might actually be a responsible act so we cant very well do that! Peabody-figures…bunch of Massholes!



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