Frankel Sentenced to More Than 16 Years in Prison

December 13, 2004

  • December 14, 2004 at 11:24 am
    CTYRE says:
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    I know something about what is going on in Iraq. My brother is over there fighting, and has even been injured in battle. And do you want to talk about civilians being killed- lets talk about over 3,000 innocent Americans on 9/11 and how about all the innocent Israeli kids and women who are blown up on there way to school. Shouldn’t you look at both sides of the fence next time before making such ignorant remarks?

  • December 14, 2004 at 11:28 am
    CTYRE says:
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    who is preventing them from getting job training or higher education so they can get a better job? How about those who don’t have health insurance but their kids have $150 pair of shoes? Come on, the problem with most is that health insurance is not enough of a priority to sacrifice some of the things they want to pay for it. And I can tell you, I certainly don’t like paying over $800 per month for my families health insurance. Just think what I could do with that extra money every month.

  • December 14, 2004 at 12:11 pm
    Michael Moore says:
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    Look at the poor souls who voted for this nonsense. They are working for six dollars an hour if they are working at all, their children are dying overseas and suffering from lack of health care and a depleted environment and a shoddy education.

    And they don’t even know they are being hit.

    How true. And that is our challenge over the next couple of years; to hold out our hand to those being hit the hardest and help them leave behind a party that only seeks to keep beating them, their children, and the kid next door whos on his way to Iraq.

    Yours,

    Michael Moore
    http://www.michaelmoore.com
    MMFlint@aol.com

  • December 14, 2004 at 12:23 pm
    CTYRE says:
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    Since my last post ive done some research -And wow was I wrong. This administration is killing us! I appologize for my earlier posts, I really had my head in the sand. Check this out>:

    II. American soldiers fighting in Iraq are suffering the highest rate of extreme disabling injuries of any war in history. After reading this story, you will comprehend why our soldiers were so concerned that they voiced their disapproval directly to our Secretary of Defense.

    NEWS BRIEF: “Combat doctors save life over limb: U.S. surgeons stunned by horrific injuries incurred by troops fighting in Iraq”, By Katarina Kratovac / Associated Press, reprinted in Detroit News, December 9, 2004

    “NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq — Doctors with Bravo Surgical Company — known as the ‘Cheaters of Death’ — fight their own quiet battles every day against the horrifying wounds of war. ‘These injuries we never see at home’, said one of the surgeons … For every American soldier killed in Iraq, nine others have been wounded and survived — the highest rate of any war in U.S. history … some soldiers and Marines have had faces, arms and legs blown off and are returning home badly maimed. But they have survived due, in part, to armor-like vests and fast treatment from doctors on the move with surgical kits in backpacks … Dr. Michael Mazurek, an orthopedic surgeon and trauma specialist from Philadelphia, said he has seen ‘some horrific injuries’ in the 90 days since coming to Iraq. “The tremendous force of the IED can devastate a torso,” he says, referring to a roadside bomb.”

    Now, can you see why these American soldiers listening to Rumsfeld were so concerned? They knew this statistic — that the tactics of the insurgency was severely wounding many American soldiers, many of them dying and being wounded in roadside bombs and in rocket-propelled grenade attacks against lightly-armored Humvees. This concern over not being properly prepared for the war they were being asked to fight is what prompted 23 Army reservists to refuse a mission transporting fuel along a dangerous road in Iraq. Not only were their vehicles not properly armored, but they were not offered an armed military escort through this dangerous territory.

    This next segment of news illustrates just how much danger our troops are in while fighting this war:

    “”This is unprecedented. People who lose not just one but two or three extremities are people who just have not survived in the past’, said Dr. Atul Gawande, a surgeon at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston … The journal also published a five-page spread of 21 military photographs that graphically depict the horrific injuries and conditions under which these modern-day MASH surgeons operate … This war is producing unique injuries — less lethal but more traumatic,” he said.

    “In one traumatic case, Gawande tells of an airman who lost both legs, his right hand and part of his face. ‘How he and others like him will be able to live and function remains an open question’, Gawande writes.” (Ibid,)

    Thus, while more of the wounded are surviving, more are coming home with severe, life-long amputations, with which they will struggle for the rest of their lives. The terrible reality is that these men are fighting a war launched on a series of lies and misrepresentations, from President Bush on down. Even though officials from Bush downwards have admitted there was no WMD in Iraq, and even though the President’s own commissions have admitted there is no evidence that Saddam was ever cooperating with Osama bin Laden, we constantly hear that our brave boys are fighting against “the enemy” in order to ensure the survival of our way of life and our freedoms.

    The reality is once again to be found in completely the opposite direction — the real threat to our way of life and to our liberties comes from legislation like Patriot Acts I and II and from the politicians on both sides of the aisle who have enacted them, solely because all elective governments must be brought down if the Illuminist Masonic Christ is ever to appear.

    How upset are some American troops right now in Iraq? This story about American soldiers being so upset about not getting proper equipment may be just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. With this thought in mind, this next story makes a lot more sense.

    NEWS BRIEF: “U.S. deserter numbers reach 5,500”, Big News Network.com, Saturday 11th December, 2004

    “Since the war started in Iraq, the Pentagon says 5,500 U.S. soldiers have deserted, with some of them seeking refugee status in Canada, CBS reported Thursday … Meanwhile, other soldiers who were denied conscientious objector status are using the Internet to locate Vietnam-era resisters who assist and even drive objectors to Canada, CBS said.

  • December 14, 2004 at 12:37 pm
    CTYRE says:
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    must have been manipulated by Michael “I am a Socialist jerk” Moore. Not sure how he has done this, but obviously this is not a post I would make. I am a supporter of our troops, the Bush administration and I believe in our country. Something Michael Moore obviously does not. As a matter of fact, whoever pasted that propaganda and put my name on it- I would really like to know who you are.

  • December 14, 2004 at 12:39 pm
    CTYRE says:
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    cause if you are the Michael Moore, I have but one thing to say to you. Go away and take all of your left wing propaganda with you.

  • December 14, 2004 at 12:52 pm
    CTYRE says:
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    Someone keeps posting with my name and I dont appreciate it. Not only is it pissing me off its also very confusing! The fact is, Im just fed up with this administration and what they are doing to our country. Im very patriotic and this has been a terrible time in our Nations history.

  • December 14, 2004 at 1:42 am
    M says:
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    How horriblie, instead of dying they are surviving. We should tell the mobile surgeon to not try so hard and we should take the armor away from our troops.

  • December 14, 2004 at 5:18 am
    CTYRE says:
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    to email leftist, anti-American propaganda and attach my name to it. I just wish the poor sap had the balls to put his opinion on it without making it out like I am the anti-American creep. You can have your views, but as for me and mine- we believe in God, liberty, justice and George W. Bush. Now come on Michael Moore, you anti-American punk- put some more of your leftist garbage on here and make it out like its me. Guess you realize nobody will listen to your tired, old, broken down, whiny, fat ***. Get a clue, you don’t represent what Americans want- live with it or go to Afghanistan.

  • December 15, 2004 at 1:41 am
    jen says:
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    CTYRE – you seem to be a complete bonehead. Do you really believe Michael Moore is reading this and posting messages?! There are many, many, many Americans who share his beliefs – almost as many as who believe in Bush and his lies. The way Bush has suckered so many “blind” people in our country is scary. I can certainly see how the Nazi movement got started (blind followers believing anything they are told to believe.) The fact that this imbocile was re-elected makes our country look pathetic. Maybe Kerry wasn’t the best replacement, but anyone would be better than Bush.

    I am also really tired of the way the “right-wing, conservative” Republicans care so much about our freedom in this country and tout religion all the time, but don’t want to do anything to help our own poor people. Is that what is tells us to do in the Bible? Is that what Jesus would do? Perhaps he would start a war in a country and try to associate it with what another man and his followers did to us (9/11) and kill thousands of innocent people, including our service men and women? You have all of your views and ideas messed up to fit what you want it to fit. Never mind how un-Christian or immoral it is. Quit talking about morals and walk the talk. Treat people as you would want to be treated, no matter how poor or different they are from you.

    Our country has been so great for so long and a lot of that has to do with our personal freedoms, including separation of church and state, which seems to have gotten lost in this past election. Do you think that our founding fathers came up with this idea to protect the church? Think again. It was to protect our country from being controlled by religious zealots. So what do we do? We elect a man who believes he was chosen by Jesus to lead our country. This is down right scary and makes no sense at all.

    Quit rambling about morals and religion and be a good person and try to help anyone who needs it. That is the kind of thing Jesus will be looking at (if Christianity is your religion), not if you voted for G-Dummy Bush or not!



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